Joe Rogan Talks Transgender Fighters; Makes a Case for Rousey vs. Caraway


UFC commentator Joe Rogan couldn’t make it out to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil for UFC 179, but that didn’t stop him from hosting a fight companion episode of his podcast ‘The Joe Rogan Experience.’

This episode was a packed one, Rogan was joined by UFC Heavyweight Brendan Schaub, UFC Flyweight Ian McCall, owner of Onnit Aubrey Marcus, Eddie Bravo, Kareem Masarani, and Whitney Miller.

Rogan and friends live streamed the pay-per-view portion of UFC 179, spending three hours shooting the sh*t and talking about the fights.

Eventually a discussion arose about the power certain men possess, which led to Rogan speaking about transgender fighters and the difference in natural power between a man and woman.

Here’s what Rogan had to say:

“It’s bone size too dude, it’s shape. And that’s one of the main problems I have with transgender fighters that fight over in women’s MMA, I should say only if they don’t let them know. That was the issue I had with Fallon Fox, she didn’t divulge because she didn’t think she had to because it was a medical issue.

If you know that a chick used to be a dude, but is now a chick and you fight her, I’m on board. I think it should be legal to ride bulls, I think it should be legal to jump BMX, you should be able to do whatever the fuck you wanna do. I think a 135 pound chick should be able to fight a 135 pound dude.

I think if Ronda Rousey and Bryan Caraway talked enough sh*t and they decided to go at it, I don’t have any problem with that if they both agree to it.

But there’s the size of the body, it’s the shape of the body that’s different. You can look at a dude, it’s not just the density of the bone because black women have the same density of bone as white men, it’s very similar, almost the same, very similar. But, you know, obviously pro athletes and guys who strength train are going to have more density in their bones than the average person, if they’re measuring it’s a significant difference.

But the big difference is the mechanical advantage of the male frame. You don’t find a female with super wide shoulders, narrow waist and the same size hips and the same shape hips as a man and when you have that kind of body you can just generate more force. I can look at a dude and tell you weather or not he could be like a (Melvin) Manhoef. There’s some dudes that just have that stupid f*cking power and you can look at them and go ‘well he might, he might not.’

There might be like a Bobby Lashley, he looks like a f*cking brick sh*t house, but he’s not like a Shane Carwin. But a Shane Carwin’s a Shane Carwin. Shane Carwin had that stupid f*cking power that you can’t teach. Could you imagine Shane Carwin as a transvestie? Fucking clipping b*tches. All he would have to do is collar tie a chick and punch her in the back of the ear and it’s over. His hands are not gonna shrink, and if they do shrink, what are they gonna shrink, a little?”